#5797: How Many Nuclear Tests Have There Really Been?

Three credible sources, three different numbers — and the gap isn't new explosions. It's what each one decided to count.

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The most-cited figure for global nuclear testing is 2,056 — the Arms Control Association's tally, last reviewed in October 2025, covering eight nations since Trinity. Wikipedia lists 2,121 tests involving 2,476 devices. SIPRI's 2018 yearbook recorded 2,058 through North Korea's September 2017 test. Three credible sources, three different numbers, and the gap isn't new detonations. It's what each source decided to count.

The definitional fight starts with salvos. Under the 1974 Threshold Test Ban Treaty definition, multiple devices detonated within a two-kilometer circle inside a tenth of a second count as a single test. India's May 1998 campaign — three simultaneous explosions on the 11th, two more on the 13th — is officially recorded as two tests, not five. Pakistan's five simultaneous detonations on May 28, 1998 count as one. Subcritical experiments, which produce zero yield and never reach a self-sustaining chain reaction, are excluded from every tally and aren't prohibited by the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty. Safety tests and fizzles count; corrected misfires don't. The US total itself moved from 1,030 to 1,054 decades later when twenty-four joint US-UK tests were reassigned — same explosions, different column.

Then there are the detonations that may never make the list. The 1979 Vela incident — a double flash detected by a US satellite near the Prince Edward Islands, later corroborated by iodine-131 in Australian sheep, hydroacoustic data, and a 2022 NASA ozone study — remains excluded because no government has officially confirmed it. A February 2026 US State Department allegation of a covert Chinese test in June 2020 has no independent confirmation. The number, it turns out, only moves when a government signs the paperwork.

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What the research for this episode read before the script was written. Primary sources first.

  1. Arms Control Association, The Nuclear Testing Tally, last reviewed October 2025 primary
  2. CTBTO, Verification regime primary
  3. Wikipedia, List of nuclear weapons tests
  4. Al Jazeera, Visualising the 2,056 nuclear tests conducted since 1945, 2023-08-29
  5. Wikipedia, Vela incident
  6. OHCHR, Marshall Islands: Eighty years on, victims of nuclear testing still seeking justice, 2026-09-30
  7. The Diplomat, 'Ashes of Death': The Marshall Islands Is Still Seeking Justice for US Nuclear Tests, 2024-03
  8. SIPRI Yearbook 2018, ch. 6
  9. 2IA, Nuclear Detonations and Tests, 1945 2017
  10. Arms Control Association, Trump, Xi, Putin Failing to Tackle the Nuclear Threat, 2026-09-30
  11. UN, End Nuclear Tests Day History

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#5797: How Many Nuclear Tests Have There Really Been?

Corn
The series has taken apart the famous ones — Trinity, Tsar Bomba, Starfish Prime, Plowshare — one device, one explosion, one afternoon in the desert at a time. Daniel wants the last one to step back and look at the whole pile.
Herman
How big is the pile.
Corn
He points out that everything we've covered so far is a rounding error against what actually happened. He wants to know how many nuclear explosions have really occurred since 1945, how confident anyone can be in that number, who set them off and when, and what the shape of that history says about where we are now. And he wants it in numbers. Not "more than two thousand." He wants the trajectory.
Herman
The trajectory is the argument.
Corn
Two thousand and change sounds like a static fact. It isn't. It's a curve that goes almost vertical in the early sixties and then falls off a cliff in the nineties.
Herman
And it's a number somebody chose.
Corn
So let's start with the number itself — because it turns out the number is a negotiated thing.
Herman
The most cited figure is two thousand and fifty-six.
Corn
From where?
Herman
The Arms Control Association's testing tally, last reviewed October 2025. Eight nations, since the sixteenth of July 1945. And that's the number that gets quoted everywhere.
Corn
And then you go to Wikipedia and it says two thousand one hundred and twenty-one.
Herman
Right. Which is why people think somebody made an arithmetic error somewhere. Nobody did. Wikipedia's list counts two thousand one hundred and twenty-one tests involving two thousand four hundred and seventy-six devices. Two different denominators in one sentence — tests and devices. That's the whole problem in miniature.
Corn
And SIPRI?
Herman
SIPRI's 2018 yearbook recorded two thousand and fifty-eight explosions, through North Korea's September 2017 test. The 2IA archive catalogs the same figure. So you've got three credible sources within about sixty-five of each other, and the gap isn't new detonations. It's what each one decided to count.
Corn
The first question is what actually counts as a test — and that is where the definitional fight begins.
Herman
Let's start with what's unambiguous. A device fired down a shaft, or in a tunnel, or underwater, or on a barge, or on a tower, or hanging from a balloon, or fired out of a cannon, or dropped from an aircraft, or carried on a rocket. That's the physical range. Two thousand and fifty-six tests by eight countries is the ACA's total, and inside that total the United States is listed at one thousand and thirty.
Corn
But the Department of Energy says one thousand and fifty-four.
Herman
Which is a lovely little case study. The original DOE count was one thousand and thirty American tests. Later revisions moved it to one thousand and fifty-four, because twenty-four joint US-UK tests got reassigned to the American total.
Corn
Reassigned. As in, the same explosion was counted on one ledger and then moved to another.
Herman
Same explosion, different owner. And this is not a scandal, it's just bookkeeping. Twenty-four tests carried out jointly, and the question is whose column they sit in.
Corn
So forty years after the fact, the American total moved by twenty-four. And nothing new detonated.
Herman
Nothing detonated. It's a filing decision. Now — the salvo problem, because that's where the two thousand and fifty-six really starts to bend.
Corn
Define salvo for me.
Herman
The US-Soviet treaty definition: multiple devices detonated within a two kilometer circle inside a tenth of a second. That's one test, officially, no matter how many devices are in it.
Corn
And India is the clean example.
Herman
India's the cleanest. May 1998. Three simultaneous explosions on the eleventh of May, then two more on the thirteenth. ACA counts the three as one test and the two as one test. Which is why India shows as three total, not five.
Corn
Pakistan.
Herman
Five simultaneous explosions on the twenty-eighth of May 1998. Counted as one test. That's why Pakistan's total is two — the 1998 salvo and the 1998 Chagai follow-on.
Corn
So a country can set off five warheads in a tenth of a second and the official history records one line item.
Herman
Per the Threshold Test Ban Treaty definition from 1974.
Corn
The threshold being —
Herman
A hundred and fifty kilotons on the yield. For a single explosion. And if you're firing a salvo, the treaty language has to decide whether the threshold applies to the salvo or the device.
Corn
Which is a physicist's nightmare dressed as a lawyer's problem.
Herman
It's both. And it cuts the other direction too. Salvo tests where the devices are counted as one — that's a convention. Wikipedia counts differently. Which is how you get to two thousand one hundred and twenty-one without a single extra mushroom cloud.
Corn
Now, the things that don't count at all.
Herman
Subcritical experiments. A subcritical test is a detonation of high explosive around a fissile core where the assembly never reaches the condition for a self-sustaining chain reaction. No yield. Zero. And those are excluded from every test tally, and — this is the interesting part — they are not prohibited by the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty.
Corn
Because the treaty bans nuclear explosions, not nuclear experiments.
Herman
Zero yield isn't a nuclear explosion in the treaty's sense. But safety tests — a zero-yield test of a warhead's one-point safety — those are counted. And fizzles count. A test that fires and produces a fraction of its expected yield counts. A test that's destroyed before firing gets counted too, in some conventions.
Corn
And misfires that were later corrected don't.
Herman
Misfire, corrected, excluded. Which means the tally has an implicit rule: a disaster counts, a do-over doesn't.
Corn
That's a fair description of most institutional record-keeping, honestly.
Herman
And then the two bombs over Japan.
Corn
Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Herman
Wikipedia includes them. ACA's tally starts on the sixteenth of July 1945 — Trinity — so you could read their framing either way, but the two wartime uses are the original question: were they tests?
Corn
They were the opposite of a test. A test is a question. Those were a statement.
Herman
Which is exactly the definitional boundary nobody wants to litigate, because if you include them the number is about the use of the weapon, and if you exclude them the tally is about something narrower. And nobody wants to say out loud that the two most consequential detonations in history sit outside the count.
Corn
So the two thousand and fifty-six is really a treaty artifact. It's what you get if you count by the definitions that were written down after the fact.
Herman
Written by the same governments doing the counting.
Corn
And that's before we get to the ones that might not be in the number at all.
Herman
The Vela incident.
Corn
Twenty-second of September 1979.
Herman
Zero hours, fifty-three minutes UTC. A US Vela satellite — OPS 6911 — detects a double flash. The characteristic signature. Near the Prince Edward Islands, roughly forty-seven degrees south, forty degrees east. Consistent with a two to three kiloton atmospheric explosion.
Corn
Who says so?
Herman
The satellite does. And the CIA, in October 1979, assessed it with high confidence as a low-yield nuclear explosion.
Corn
And who says otherwise?
Herman
The Ruina panel. Reporting in mid-1980. Their collective judgment was that the September 22 signal was probably not from a nuclear explosion. They cited a deviation in the light signature.
Corn
A deviation.
Herman
The double flash has a particular shape, and the shape was slightly off. That was the basis.
Corn
Then the evidence started accumulating.
Herman
Iodine-131 showed up in Australian sheep. That's a fission product and it doesn't come from a lightning strike. Hydroacoustic data — the MILS system — picked up a signal consistent with the event. And in 2022 a study using NASA's Nimbus-7 satellite found a shockwave trace in the ozone layer.
Corn
Forty-three years later.
Herman
Avner Cohen's line is the one that sticks: forty years later there is a scientific and historical consensus that it was a nuclear test, and that it had to be Israeli.
Corn
And Jimmy Carter's diary.
Herman
February 27, 1980. "We have a growing belief among our scientists that the Israelis did indeed conduct a nuclear test explosion in the ocean near the southern end of Africa."
Corn
And yet two thousand and fifty-six doesn't include it.
Herman
No. ACA explicitly excludes Vela because no government has ever officially confirmed it. Their own note says there's strong evidence it was an Israeli test with South African cooperation — and it's still not in the tally.
Corn
Because the number only moves when a government signs the paperwork.
Herman
Which tells you what the number actually is. It's a diplomatic record, not a physical one.
Corn
So what else is missing?
Herman
The list of alleged tests is longer than you'd think, and almost all of it falls apart.
Corn
Go through it.
Herman
The biggest current one: the US State Department, in February of this year, alleged that China conducted a covert underground test on the twenty-second of June 2020. Yield in the hundreds of tons. Hidden via decoupling — which is detonating in a large cavity so the seismic signal is muffled. Under Secretary Thomas DiNanno stated it publicly on the sixth of February.
Corn
Any independent confirmation?
Herman
None. That's the honest answer. The international monitoring system did not flag it. It's a unilateral American allegation.
Corn
And the earlier Lop Nur concern?
Herman
April 2020, the State Department flagged possible supercritical experiments at Lop Nur in 2019, expressing concerns about adherence to the zero yield standard. Supercritical is a category between subcritical and a full test, and its status under the treaty is contested.
Corn
What about Pakistan?
Herman
Alleged 1983 test. Alleged 1990 test at Lop Nur, which would have been a joint Chinese-Pakistani thing. Both widely dismissed.
Corn
The Yekaterinburg fireball in 2014?
Herman
Disputed, and most people who looked at it concluded it was natural.
Corn
And the 2010 North Korea claim?
Herman
De Geer's low-yield claim. Largely debunked — Columbia's Earth Institute came down on the other side.
Corn
So Israel is the only suspected nuclear state that's never been confirmed to have tested.
Herman
And Vela is the strongest candidate that isn't in the count.
Corn
So the number is contested and constructed. Now let's look at who actually did the testing, and when.
Herman
Country by country, ACA, October 2025. United States, one thousand and thirty. One thousand and fifty-four with the joint tests. Soviet Union and Russia, seven hundred and fifteen. France, two hundred and ten. United Kingdom, forty-five. China, forty-five. India, three. Pakistan, two. North Korea, six.
Corn
Two countries with about eighty-five percent of it.
Herman
The US and the USSR. Now here's the thing I want to sit on for a second.
Corn
Sit on it.
Herman
The Soviet Union ran seven hundred and fifteen tests. The United States ran one thousand and thirty. The US ran roughly forty percent more tests. And yet the Soviet Union produced fifty-four point nine percent of the worldwide total yield.
Corn
Which is how many kilotons?
Herman
Two hundred ninety-six thousand eight hundred thirty-seven kilotons. The US produced a hundred ninety-six thousand five hundred and fourteen. That's thirty-six point three percent. Worldwide total yield across all testing, all countries, five hundred forty thousand eight hundred and forty-nine kilotons.
Corn
So the Soviets tested less and detonated more.
Herman
Significantly more per test. Fewer tests, more megatons. That's the whole Soviet approach in six words.
Corn
And the reason?
Herman
They leaned on very large weapons. The Tsar Bomba is the extreme version but it's not an outlier in kind, just in degree. Larger yields per test on average, and the yields climbed faster. The American program spent more of its test count on effects testing, safety testing, verification, warhead physics across a wider range of designs.
Corn
So the test count measures institutional style more than it measures nuclear capability.
Herman
Test count measures how many times you went to the range. Yield measures what you brought.
Corn
Give me the shape of the curve.
Herman
The single busiest year was 1962. One hundred and seventy-eight tests. US ninety-six, USSR seventy-nine. And that's the year of the Cuban Missile Crisis, so you can feel why.
Corn
Before that?
Herman
1958, a hundred and sixteen. US seventy-seven, USSR thirty-four. 1961, seventy-one.
Corn
So three distinct spikes: fifty-eight, sixty-one, sixty-two.
Herman
And then the 1963 Limited Test Ban Treaty.
Corn
Which everybody describes as the end of atmospheric testing.
Herman
It ended most atmospheric testing. It did not end testing. It moved the testing underground. And the pace barely slowed — you get a long plateau of fifty to eighty tests a year running from the mid-sixties through the mid-eighties.
Corn
That's the part people miss. The total tests per year after 1963 are stable and high.
Herman
Stable and high. The treaty changed the environment the explosion happened in, not whether it happened.
Corn
The last atmospheric test by anybody?
Herman
China, October 16, 1980. After that, everything goes underground.
Corn
And the clean narrative?
Herman
Underground venting. A contained underground test is contained until it isn't — the ground vents, or there's a leak in the shaft seal, and fission products go into the soil and into the air. It's cleaner by degree and it's not clean.
Corn
There's also 1986.
Herman
1986 is a lovely anomaly. Twenty-three tests total worldwide. The Soviet Union ran zero.
Corn
Why?
Herman
Chernobyl was April 1986. And the Soviet program stood down.
Corn
So the one year the Soviets stopped testing was the year their civilian reactor program became an international catastrophe.
Herman
Not a coincidence anyone has ever formally established, but the timing is striking.
Corn
The nineties now.
Herman
1990: eighteen. 1991: fourteen. 1992: eight. Then single digits. Then zero from 1998 onward, except North Korea.
Corn
The last tests, country by country.
Herman
Last Soviet test, October 24, 1990. Last UK test, November 26, 1991. Last US test, September 23, 1992. Last France, January 27, 1996. Last China, July 29, 1996.
Corn
And North Korea.
Herman
Six tests from 2006 to 2017. Last one on September 3, 2017.
Corn
So from one hundred and seventy-eight tests in 1962 to six events in a decade and a half, and none since 2017.
Herman
That's the reversal. It's the steepest decline in the history of any large technical program I can think of.
Corn
Environmental distribution?
Herman
Five hundred and twenty-eight atmospheric. US two hundred and fifteen, USSR two hundred and nineteen, UK twenty-one, France fifty, China twenty-three. One thousand five hundred and twenty-eight underground.
Corn
So about a quarter of them put material into the open sky.
Herman
And the atmospheric ones are disproportionately the ones that produced the fallout people live with.
Corn
The Marshall Islands.
Herman
Sixty-seven known US tests between 1946 and 1958. Combined yield of more than seven thousand times the Hiroshima bomb.
Corn
Seven thousand.
Herman
It's the figure in the UN Human Rights Office story from September 30th of this year, marking eighty years since the first of those tests. And the medical findings out of Rongelap are the ones that stop the conversation. About one third of the population developed thyroid abnormalities. Ninety percent of Rongelapese children developed thyroid tumors.
Corn
Ninety percent of the children.
Herman
On an island that was downwind and wasn't evacuated fast enough, and for years afterward the islanders didn't know what had happened to them.
Corn
Semipalatinsk.
Herman
Four hundred and fifty-six tests, per the CTBTO. Over four hundred and fifty per other sources. More than a hundred and ten of them in the air or at the surface. Kazakhstan has recognized over a million people as affected.
Corn
A million.
Herman
The site closed on August 29, 1991. That date is now the International Day against Nuclear Tests.
Corn
The UN Human Rights Office has a line about the Marshall Islands case that lands hard. Heike Alefsen: "The continued denial of an effective remedy is itself an ongoing human rights violation."
Herman
And Benetick Kabua Maddison, from the Marshallese Educational Initiative: "The nuclear legacy is an unfinished issue. It is obviously ongoing, environmentally, medically as well as culturally."
Corn
Unfinished is the word. Eighty years on and there's no settlement.
Herman
There's no settlement, and the counting is still going on in courtrooms rather than in seismographs.
Corn
So now the question the last third of this has been building toward. Is the era actually ending?
Herman
The decline is real. Zero declared explosive tests since 2017, outside North Korea. The Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty was opened for signature in 1996.
Corn
And never entered into force.
Herman
It requires ratification by a specific list of forty-four countries with nuclear capability, and it hasn't happened. India, Pakistan, North Korea never signed. China, Israel, Iran, Egypt, Indonesia and the United States signed but never ratified. So the treaty that governs the norm has never actually been law.
Corn
And Russia.
Herman
Russia deposited ratification in 2000. And then in 2023, Russia de-ratified. Which means the party with the largest number of tests on its record is now formally outside a treaty that never entered force anyway.
Corn
The norm holds anyway.
Herman
The norm holds as a norm. That's the interesting thing about the CTBT — it functions almost entirely through the verification regime, the monitoring network, and through the fact that everybody behaves as if it were in force. And then the US government says in February that China tested covertly in 2020.
Corn
Which nobody can independently confirm.
Herman
Which nobody has independently confirmed. So you have a treaty that isn't in force, one signatory pulling its ratification, and the other major power publicly alleging a violation — and yet the actual number of declared explosions since 2017 is zero.
Corn
The stated number is zero.
Herman
Which, given the last hour of conversation, we should probably treat as a number, not a fact.
Corn
Hold on.
Herman
Go ahead.
Corn
You're the donkey who reads everything. I want to know whether I'm supposed to trust the seismic network or not.
Herman
I'm not sure about this part entirely, but — the monitoring network for a fully decoupled cavity test at very low yield is a hard detection problem. It's not that the network can't see anything. It's that the detection threshold moves depending on how the test is conducted, and where, and in what medium. A well-decoupled test in a salt dome is a much quieter event than the same yield in hard rock.
Corn
So the number is soft at the low end.
Herman
The number is soft at the low end. Which is exactly why the Vela question has never resolved.
Corn
What's the cost of all those thousands of explosions, in the way a listener can actually feel it?
Herman
Total yield, five hundred forty thousand kilotons. Hiroshima was about fifteen kilotons.
Corn
So five hundred forty thousand divided by fifteen is —
Herman
About thirty-six thousand.
Corn
Thirty-six thousand Hiroshimas.
Herman
Times seven thousand for the Marshall Islands part of it. Yeah.
Corn
That's the number I want to leave the middle of the episode with. Not the two thousand and fifty-six. Thirty-six thousand.
Herman
And none of it produces anything you can hold.
Hilbert
Now, the problem with the four hundred and fifty-six is that they missed one.
Hilbert
Semipalatinsk. Four hundred and fifty-six is the figure you just gave. There were four hundred and fifty-seven.
Herman
Where's that from?
Hilbert
A card. Three by five, handwritten. The seventh line reads "event," then the date, and the margin says, and I quote, "extra event — do not include."
Corn
Extra event.
Hilbert
That's the notation. Underlined once, in pencil.
Herman
Who wrote it?
Hilbert
A seismologist at the site. Russian, or Soviet I suppose, that distinction stopped mattering at some point. He gave me the card, some time between then and now.
Corn
Which is when?
Hilbert
That's not the interesting part.
Corn
I'll ask a different one. Why is there a card.
Hilbert
Because I was cataloging. I had an archive job, seismic records out of the site, and I was meant to inventory the events into an index. I counted four hundred and fifty-seven. The published number said four hundred and fifty-six. I wrote the discrepancy on the card and I kept it.
Herman
Which means your count and the official count disagree by exactly the event marked "do not include."
Hilbert
Yes.
Corn
Who wrote "do not include"?
Hilbert
I don't know.
Corn
You don't know.
Hilbert
I never found out.
Corn
You've had this card for decades and you've never found out.
Hilbert
Nobody was going to tell me.
Herman
The margin note is the whole thing, isn't it. Somebody went through the record and reached in and took one line out, and the reason is not on the card.
Hilbert
The reason is never on the card.
Corn
What's in the shoebox?
Hilbert
The card. And a piece of concrete.
Herman
A piece of concrete.
Hilbert
From the site.
Corn
How did you get concrete out of the site?
Hilbert
I was there, doing the cataloging. I picked it up.
Herman
And why is it in the shoebox?
Hilbert
Because it's slightly warm.
Corn
Slightly warm.
Hilbert
Not warm enough to measure.
Herman
Not warm enough to measure, but warm enough to keep.
Hilbert
Warm enough to keep. Correct.
Corn
And where did the seismologist end up?
Hilbert
He walked into an embassy. Which embassy is not entirely clear to me, and the country is also not entirely clear, because it doesn't exist any longer.
Corn
What was his name?
Hilbert
Something like Yuri. But not Yuri.
Herman
Something like Yuri.
Hilbert
Yuri but not. It's not the name that matters. It's the pencil.
Corn
You keep saying there's an extra event. Fine. Does it change the number?
Hilbert
The number is not the point. The point is one person decided something was not going to be counted, and the number moved.
Corn
So the tally is a decision, made by somebody, once.
Hilbert
Every tally is.
Corn
And the card proves it.
Hilbert
The card is a card. It proves somebody had a pencil.
Herman
It proves that every official number you've ever seen was at some point a person, in a room, with a list, deciding.
Hilbert
I'll take that.
Corn
Which is the entire episode, and Hilbert just said it in four sentences.
Hilbert
Don't do that.
Corn
Do what?
Hilbert
Say it like I meant it.
Corn
Hilbert.
Hilbert
Corn.
Corn
The concrete.
Hilbert
The concrete stays. The card stays.
Corn
Anything else in the shoebox?
Hilbert
Two paperclips. Rusted.
Corn
Rusted.
Hilbert
Rusted. Steel. But you don't care about the paperclips.
Corn
I care about the paperclips.
Herman
I want to go back to the warm concrete.
Hilbert
It's not a measurement. It's a feel.
Herman
Which is my problem.
Hilbert
Then it's your problem.
Corn
Let's bring this back to the bigger picture.
Herman
The overarching thing Daniel asked for is the trajectory, and the trajectory is this. One hundred and seventy-eight tests in 1962. Zero declared tests since North Korea's in 2017. And the reason that story feels finished when it isn't is that the stopping point arrived because of a combination of factors, and we don't know how many of them are durable.
Corn
What were the factors?
Herman
Verification got good enough that a test you couldn't hide was a test you had paid for and would get caught doing. The weapons designs got mature enough that testing was less about discovery and more about certification. And then there was a moral reckoning, late and partial, about what the atmospheric tests had done to the people downwind.
Corn
And now?
Herman
And now the treaty that was supposed to codify the norm has never entered force. Russia pulled its ratification in 2023. The US has publicly accused China of covert testing this year. The verification regime is the strongest it's ever been and it's still not airtight at low yield.
Corn
So the era is not over.
Herman
The era of visible testing is over. The era of testing is on a pause that depends on the assumption that everybody else is also on pause. That's a shared assumption, and shared assumptions can break.
Corn
What would break it?
Herman
A weapons-design problem that the modeling can't certify on its own. A breakdown in the political arrangements that make restraint look preferable to testing. Or a state deciding that the cost of being caught is worth the benefit of being certain.
Corn
The one thing I'll take from all of this is that the number was never the point. Two thousand and fifty-six is not the history of nuclear testing. It's the history of how governments agreed to describe nuclear testing, and the difference between those two things is where the real history lives — in the four hundred and fifty-seventh event, in the card that says "do not include," in the forty-one previous Vela double flashes that were all confirmed nuclear tests, and in the one that wasn't.
Herman
The number is a ledger. The physics doesn't care what was written on the ledger.
Corn
And the people living on Rongelap and around Semipalatinsk are the correction to the ledger.
Herman
They are the correction.
Corn
One thing I want listeners to sit with, because I've been sitting with it since we started — ninety percent of the children on Rongelap developed thyroid tumors. That's not a statistic in a report. That's a denominator. And it's the same denominator that the two thousand and fifty-six is drawn from.
Herman
It's the same event. The number is a line item. The children are not.
Corn
If you think about the whole series now — Trinity, Tsar Bomba, Starfish Prime, Project Sundial, Plowshare — every one of those was a test. And in every case the question afterward was not "did the physics work." It was "who was downwind."
Herman
And the answer is the same every time.
Corn
It's always the same people.
Herman
It's always the same.
Corn
Before we go — Hilbert Flumingtop is our producer, and to whoever told him that warm concrete is a fact worth keeping, you were right.
Herman
You're on your own with that one.
Corn
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Herman
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Corn
We've done the series, and the series ends here, and the number that closes it is two thousand and fifty-six, or a little more, depending on who's doing the counting.
Herman
Which is the entire point.
Corn
We'll be back soon.

This episode was generated with AI assistance. Hosts Herman and Corn are AI personalities.