#5242: Two Neighbors, Two Invasion Plans

Canada drew up a plan to invade the U.S. in 1921. The friendly-neighbor story is only 80 years old.

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The warm, settled U.S.-Canada friendship is roughly eighty years old — a post-war artifact. For the century and a half before that, the relationship ran on invasions, annexation schemes, tariff wars, and mirror-image military planning. Canada's Defence Scheme No. 1, drawn up in 1921, was a plan to send flying columns into American territory, seize cities as bargaining chips, and hold them until Britain arrived. The U.S. Army War College had its own plan, War Plan Red, for invading Canada.

That pattern predates the plans. Benedict Arnold tried to take Quebec in 1775. The American strategy in the War of 1812 was to seize Canada; the British retaliated by burning the White House and the Capitol. Confederation itself, in 1867, was partly a defensive response to American expansionism — George-Étienne Cartier framed the choice as confederation or absorption. The 1890 McKinley Tariff was designed to make Canada economically miserable enough that joining the union would look attractive. It backfired. Canada retaliated, deepened trade with Britain, and in 1911 rejected a free trade deal under the slogan "no truck or trade with the Yankees." Smoot-Hawley in 1930 cut bilateral trade by 75%. In 1972, Nixon declared the special relationship dead.

What's different now is asymmetry plus sentiment. Over 70% of Canadian merchandise exports go to the United States — 72.5% in 2025 — which is the basis for the American theory that leverage is structural. But Canada is only about 4% of the overall U.S. merchandise deficit, and the Wall Street Journal editorial board called the current fight the dumbest trade war in history. Meanwhile, Nanos Research found 74% of Canadians disagree that the U.S. is a trustworthy ally, and Angus Reid found 42% saying the government should treat the U.S. as an enemy or potential threat. Canadian resident trips to the U.S. fell 25.4% in 2025 — 39 million down to 29 million — the deepest sustained decline since digital recordkeeping began in 1972, rivaled only by 9/11. Land crossings dropped 30% while air travel dipped just 11%, meaning the routine, everyday integration of border communities is what's breaking. Canada's response has been structural rather than tactical: a "unique alliance" with the European Union, a strategic partnership with China, and even talk of joining Eurovision in 2027. And the oil math complicates the leverage story — tariffs may cost Canada about half a percent of GDP, but oil above $100 a barrel driven by the Iran war could add that back and more.

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#5242: Two Neighbors, Two Invasion Plans

Corn
Daniel's been reading the news and circling back to a question that's older than most of the countries involved. The U.S. and Canada, the image everyone carries around, is two neighbors sharing the world's longest undefended border, doing billions in daily trade, swapping tourists like they're the same country with a line drawn through it. His question is whether that image actually holds up against the longer history, or whether the last few weeks of tariff threats and annexation talk are just the latest swing in a relationship that's been bumpier than the postcard version suggests.
Herman
The postcard version is about eighty years old. That's the thing. The warm, settled, we're-best-friends framing is a post-war artifact. Before that, for roughly a hundred and fifty years, the relationship ran on invasions, annexation schemes, tariff wars, and literal military planning against each other.
Corn
Literal military planning.
Herman
Canada's Defence Scheme Number One, drawn up in nineteen twenty-one, was a plan to invade the United States. The idea was to send flying columns into American territory, seize a few cities, hold them as bargaining chips, and trade them back for breathing room while Britain arrived. The U.S. Army War College had its own plan, War Plan Red, for war with the British Empire, which included invading Canada.
Corn
So the two countries had mirror-image invasion plans filed away and still managed to build the world's most boring border crossing experience. That's a level of compartmentalization I respect.
Herman
And the invasion history isn't just paper. Benedict Arnold tried to take Quebec in seventeen seventy-five. The War of eighteen twelve, the American strategy was to seize Canada. That failed badly enough that the British retaliated by burning the White House and the Capitol.
Corn
I want to make sure I have this straight. The United States invaded Canada, lost, and then had its own capital set on fire by the response. And the current framing is that Canada is the one who can't be trusted to behave?
Herman
The framing has always been flexible. But here's the pattern that matters. Every time the United States has pushed annexation or economic pressure, Canadian nationalism hardened. Confederation itself, eighteen sixty-seven, was partly a defensive response to American expansionism. John Boyko, the Canadian historian, puts it flatly. How Canada was created, when it was created, why it was created, was to stand against the annexation plans of the United States.
Corn
That's a founding document written in response to a neighbor's appetite.
Herman
George-Étienne Cartier said it in eighteen sixty-five. Either we obtain a British North American Confederation, or we get absorbed into an American one. Those were the two options on the table as far as he was concerned. Confederation was the less bad one.
Corn
So the country's origin story is a defensive merger. That does change how the current annexation jokes land. What sounds like a throwaway line to an American audience reads, to a Canadian, like the thing the country was built to prevent.
Herman
And it's not ancient history. William Seward bought Alaska in eighteen sixty-seven explicitly as a step toward acquiring the whole northwest Pacific coast. There was a sitting congressman in eighteen sixty-eight saying British Columbia would drop into American hands like a ripe pear. The eighteen ninety McKinley Tariff was designed, in part, to make Canada so economically miserable that joining the United States would look attractive.
Corn
The tariff as a courtship tool.
Herman
It backfired. Canada retaliated, deepened trade with Britain, and in nineteen eleven actually rejected a free trade deal with the United States. The Conservative slogan was no truck or trade with the Yankees.
Corn
No truck or trade with the Yankees. That's not a slogan you run when the relationship is basically fine.
Herman
And then Smoot-Hawley in nineteen thirty. The United States raised tariffs, Canada retaliated, and bilateral trade fell seventy-five percent during the Depression.
Corn
Seventy-five percent. So the current trade war, as ugly as it is, hasn't yet matched the historical record for self-inflicted damage.
Herman
Not yet. And there's the Nixon Shock in nineteen seventy-one. The U.S. imposed a ten percent import surcharge and refused to exempt Canada. Ottawa panicked. Nixon then gave a speech in nineteen seventy-two declaring the special relationship between Canada and the United States dead.
Corn
Dead. He said it was dead.
Herman
His words. So when people say the special relationship is now over, the honest answer is that it has died at least once before, was declared dead by a sitting American president, and then got rebuilt.
Corn
Which suggests the relationship isn't a steady state. It's a cycle. Pressure, rupture, repair, repeat. The question is what's different this time.
Herman
The asymmetry. Over seventy percent of Canadian merchandise exports go to the United States. That's the number. Seventy-two point five percent in twenty twenty-five. The United States absorbs nearly three quarters of everything Canada sells abroad.
Corn
So the American theory is that leverage is structural. Canada can't walk away because there's nowhere else to put that volume.
Herman
That's the theory. Trump has said we don't need Canada. The belief is that the United States holds the cards.
Corn
But the trade gap with Canada is about four percent of the overall American merchandise deficit. So the fight isn't really about the trade math.
Herman
Right. If the goal were reducing the deficit, Canada is four percent of the problem. You don't launch a fifty percent tariff war over four percent of the problem. The Wall Street Journal editorial board called it the dumbest trade war in history. That's not my line, that's their headline.
Corn
Which means the fight is about something else. Leverage, sovereignty, a demonstration effect. Something that isn't in the trade statistics.
Herman
And that's what makes it harder to resolve. A fight over numbers can be negotiated. A fight over whether one country gets to dictate terms to the other, that's about standing. And Carney has been explicit that he won't compromise Canadian sovereignty. He walked away from the deal in late August rather than accept what he called unfair and uneconomic last minute changes. The American side says Canada made new demands and walk backs. Both sides accuse the other of moving the goalposts.
Corn
So the deal collapsed over something neither side will describe in detail. That's not a trade negotiation. That's a relationship fight where the actual issue is too raw to put on paper.
Herman
And the public has noticed. Nanos Research, end of August into September, seventy-four percent of Canadians disagreed with the statement that the United States is a trustworthy ally.
Corn
Seventy-four percent. That's not a crack in the relationship. That's the floor giving way.
Herman
Angus Reid had forty-two percent of Canadians saying the government should approach the United States as an enemy or a potential threat. Not a competitor, not a difficult partner. An enemy or potential threat.
Corn
That's the number that should worry anyone who cares about the alliance. When four in ten people in a friendly country say treat the neighbor as a threat, the alliance is already broken in the place where alliances actually live, which is public sentiment.
Herman
And the travel data backs it up. Canadian resident trips to the United States fell twenty-five point four percent in twenty twenty-five. Thirty-nine million down to twenty-nine million. Statistics Canada says that excluding COVID, it's the deepest, most sustained decline since digital recordkeeping began in nineteen seventy-two. The only comparable event was September eleventh.
Corn
So the border, which was the relationship's proof of concept, just broke a fifty-year record for people choosing not to cross it.
Herman
Four hundred thousand people crossed that border every day in twenty twenty-four. Two point seven billion dollars in goods and services. About four billion in daily cross-border freight. That was the living argument that the relationship worked. And now the travel collapse is rivaled only by nine eleven.
Corn
What's the breakdown? Is it all travel, or is it concentrated somewhere?
Herman
Land arrivals dropped thirty percent. Air travel only dipped eleven percent. So the people who live near the border, the ones for whom crossing is a routine errand, they're the ones staying home. The casual, embedded, everyday integration is what's breaking. The people who fly for business or vacation, they're still coming. But the neighbor who used to drive across for dinner, that person is gone.
Corn
And the spending followed. Canadians shifted about three and a half billion dollars from U.S. travel to overseas travel. The leisure spending on overseas trips grew by three point six billion. So the money didn't stay home, it just went somewhere else.
Herman
Which is the part that should worry American border towns. The Guardian ran a piece last week about paired border towns where the tension is now personal. Canadians angry about the fifty-first state talk. Businesses on the American side watching their Canadian customers disappear.
Corn
The fifty-first state thing. Let's sit with that for a second. Because from a Canadian perspective, this isn't a joke. The country's founding document exists because of annexation pressure. The eighteen forty-nine Montreal annexation manifesto, the eighteen sixty-six bill in Congress to admit Canada as states, the McKinley Tariff's hope that economic pain would push Canada into the union. This is a recurring American fantasy that Canada has spent a hundred and fifty years refusing.
Herman
And every time it comes up, the effect is the opposite of what the annexationists want. It doesn't soften Canada up. It hardens the national spine. Stephen Azzi at Carleton University said there was a belief that anyone, given the opportunity, would become an American, and a failure to understand that most Canadians didn't feel that way. That's the recurring American blind spot.
Corn
The assumption that Canada is just America waiting to happen.
Herman
And it's never been true. Canada rejected free trade with the U.S. in nineteen eleven. It refused to join Vietnam. It refused to join the two thousand three Iraq invasion. It refused to join the Iran war this year. These are not the choices of a country that's waiting to be absorbed.
Corn
So Canada has a long record of saying no to American military adventures, and the trade relationship has always been the pressure point where the U.S. tries to extract compliance.
Herman
And Canada's current response is structural, not tactical. Carney announced what he called a unique alliance with the European Union. Canada signed a new strategic partnership with China in January. There's talk of joining Eurovision in twenty twenty-seven.
Corn
Eurovision. That's the tell. You don't join Eurovision as a trade policy. You join Eurovision because you're reorienting your cultural identity away from the neighbor you used to trust.
Herman
The Eurovision detail got a lot of laughs, but it's actually the clearest signal. Canada is diversifying away from the United States across every dimension. Trade, diplomacy, culture, travel. This isn't a negotiating tactic. It's a structural pivot.
Corn
And the oil piece complicates the American leverage story. The CBC analysis said the tariffs cost Canada about half a percent of GDP, but oil above a hundred dollars a barrel, driven by the Iran war, could add half a percent to a full percent back.
Herman
So the tariff pain might be entirely offset by an oil windfall from a conflict Canada refused to join. That's the irony. The United States wanted Canadian participation in the Iran war. Canada said no. The war drove up oil prices. The oil windfall now cushions Canada against the tariff punishment for saying no.
Corn
That's a sequence of events that would be hard to invent if you tried.
Herman
And the U.S. just published a proclamation modifying the scope of additional duties on Canadian motor vehicles, citing Canadian discrimination against American commerce. Section three thirty-eight of the Tariff Act of nineteen thirty, used for the first time ever. Fifty percent tariffs on both sides, matched dollar for dollar.
Corn
Section three thirty-eight of a nineteen thirty tariff act. The same act that gave us Smoot-Hawley. So the legal tool itself is a relic of the last time the relationship collapsed.
Herman
And the negotiations collapsed in late August. Trump said yesterday he sees a deal fairly soon and downplayed leaving the trade agreement. But the tariffs are still in place. Canada's counter-tariffs are still in place. The deal is not done.
Corn
So we're in the middle of it. The question Daniel asked, whether the longer history stands up to the close allies image, the answer is no. The close allies image is a specific historical period, roughly nineteen forty to twenty twenty-five, and it was real but it was not the default. The default is friction, pressure, and periodic rupture.
Herman
The friction has a rhythm. The U.S. pushes, Canada hardens, the relationship breaks, then both sides rediscover that they need each other and rebuild. The rebuilding is always slower than the breaking.
Corn
What's different now is that Canada is building alternatives that didn't exist in previous cycles. In nineteen eleven, the alternative was Britain. In nineteen seventy-one, there wasn't really an alternative. Now there's the EU, there's China, there's a global trade system that doesn't require American intermediation.
Herman
The trust number, seventy-four percent saying the U.S. is not a trustworthy ally, that's not a number that snaps back quickly. Trust is the slowest thing to rebuild. Patrick Leblond at the University of Ottawa said the first time they thought Trump was a blimp, but he's not, and a lot of Canadians now think they can't rely on the United States.
Corn
The first time they thought it was a passing thing. The second time it's a pattern. The third time it's a feature of the relationship.
Herman
The American side hasn't really grappled with what it's losing. The border towns, the integrated supply chains, the intelligence sharing, the military cooperation, the NORAD relationship. All of that was built on a foundation of trust that is now, empirically, broken.
Corn
Let me ask you something. The travel collapse, the twenty-five percent drop, is that Canadians punishing the United States, or is it Canadians re-evaluating whether they want to be there?
Herman
I think it's both. Some of it is anger. The fifty-first state talk offended people. But some of it is a cold recalculation. If the border is going to be a political football, if the relationship is going to be weaponized every few years, then the rational thing is to reduce your exposure. Don't build your vacation around crossing a border that might be hostile.
Corn
That's the knock-on effect. The border used to be the proof that the relationship worked. Now the border is the place where the relationship's fragility is most visible. And people respond to fragility by reducing their dependence on it.
Herman
That's a rational response. If you're a Canadian business owner and you just watched the U.S. impose fifty percent tariffs using a nineteen thirty law that had never been used before, you're not going to build your next factory on the assumption that the border will stay open. You're going to look at the EU, at Asia, at anywhere that doesn't have a history of annexation rhetoric.
Corn
The long-term cost to the United States isn't the tariff revenue. It's the permanent reorientation of Canadian supply chains and consumer behavior away from the United States. That's the thing that doesn't show up in the trade deficit numbers for years.
Herman
The United States has done this before. Smoot-Hawley didn't just reduce trade. It permanently reshaped trade relationships. Countries that got burned by American tariffs built alternatives. The current moment looks like a repeat.
Corn
The difference is that in nineteen thirty, the global economy was collapsing anyway. Now the global economy is fragmented but functional, and Canada has options.
Herman
Real options. The EU alliance, the China partnership, the Asia pivot. These aren't symbolic. They're actual trade relationships being built in real time.
Corn
Where does this leave the bilateral relationship? If the close allies framing is an artifact of a specific period, and that period is over, what replaces it?
Herman
I think what replaces it is a more transactional relationship. Not enemies, not allies in the old sense, but two countries that trade because it's mutually beneficial, not because they trust each other. The trust layer is gone. The interest layer remains.
Corn
Which is a colder relationship, but maybe a more honest one. The close allies framing always papered over the fact that the two countries have fundamentally different views of the world. Canada is a middle power that believes in multilateral institutions. The United States is a superpower that believes in its own discretion. Those worldviews were always going to collide eventually.
Herman
They've collided before. Vietnam, Iraq, now Iran. The pattern is consistent. Canada says no to American wars. The United States applies economic pressure. Canada absorbs the pressure and looks for alternatives. The only thing that's changed is the scale of the alternatives.
Corn
The answer to Daniel's question is that the close allies image is real but recent, and the longer history is much bumpier. The current rupture is not an aberration. It's a reversion to the historical mean.
Herman
The mean is friction with periodic cooperation. The cooperation was real. NORAD, the auto pact, the free trade agreements, the integrated supply chains. But it was always conditional on American restraint. When the United States stops showing restraint, the cooperation frays.
Corn
The question is whether the United States cares. The American public, as far as I can tell, hasn't had a serious conversation about what it wants from Canada. The annexation talk is treated as a joke. The tariff war is treated as a negotiating tactic. The possibility that Canada might permanently reorient away from the United States doesn't seem to register.
Herman
That's the blind spot. The United States assumes Canada will always be there. The assumption is that geography is destiny, that the border is permanent, that the relationship will snap back because it always has. But the travel data says otherwise. The trust data says otherwise. The trade diversification says otherwise.
Corn
Geography is destiny until it isn't. The United States and Canada will always share a border. But sharing a border and being allies are different things. The border will remain. The alliance, as it existed for eighty years, may not.
Herman
That's the open question. Whether the current rupture is another cycle in the long pattern, or whether it's the end of the post-war alliance and the beginning of something colder.
Corn
I keep thinking about the nineteen eleven election. Canada chose Britain over the United States. No truck or trade with the Yankees. That was a country making a civilizational choice. Now Canada is making a similar choice, but the alternative isn't Britain. It's a diversified global posture. And the choice is being made by people who remember that the United States has done this before.
Herman
The historical memory is the thing. Americans don't remember the annexation attempts. Canadians do. Americans don't remember Smoot-Hawley as a bilateral rupture. Canadians do. Americans don't remember Nixon declaring the special relationship dead. Canadians do. The relationship looks different from the two sides of the border because the memories are different.
Corn
The current moment is being processed through those memories. When Trump talks about the fifty-first state, Canadians don't hear a joke. They hear Seward, they hear the eighteen sixty-six bill, they hear the McKinley Tariff. They hear a hundred and fifty years of American attempts to absorb them.
Herman
Which is why the response has been so unified. The Canadian political class, which normally fights about everything, has been remarkably aligned on this. Carney's approval numbers went up when he stood up to the United States. Standing up to American pressure is the one thing that unites Canadians across party lines.
Corn
Because it's the founding story. The country was created to stand against American annexation. When annexation pressure reappears, the country reverts to its founding posture. It's not a policy choice. It's an identity reflex.
Herman
The American side keeps being surprised by it. The assumption is that Canada, being smaller and more dependent, will eventually cave. But Canada has never caved. Nineteen eleven, nineteen thirty, nineteen seventy-one, two thousand three, now. The pattern is consistent. Canada absorbs the pressure and refuses.
Corn
The asymmetry cuts both ways. Yes, Canada depends on the U.S. market. But the U.S. depends on Canadian oil, Canadian electricity, Canadian critical minerals, Canadian water, Canadian airspace. The interdependence is real. The United States just doesn't feel it as acutely because it's bigger.
Herman
The oil point matters. The United States imports a lot of Canadian oil. The refineries in the Midwest are configured for Canadian crude. You can't just swap that out. The interdependence is structural, not just transactional.
Corn
The United States holds the cards on trade volume, but Canada holds some cards on energy and resources. The game is more balanced than the rhetoric suggests.
Herman
Which is why the deal might actually close. Trump said fairly soon yesterday. Both sides have reasons to want a deal. The question is whether a deal restores the trust, or just pauses the conflict.
Corn
A deal pauses the conflict. Trust restoration is a different project. And the trust numbers suggest that project hasn't even started.
Herman
The seventy-four percent number is the one I keep coming back to. Three quarters of Canadians saying the United States is not a trustworthy ally. That's not a negotiating position. That's a worldview shift. And worldview shifts don't reverse because a tariff deal gets signed.
Corn
The episode's answer to Daniel's question is roughly this. The close allies image is a post-war artifact. The longer history is a cycle of American pressure and Canadian resistance. The current rupture is a reversion to the historical pattern, but with a new element. Canada now has alternatives that didn't exist in previous cycles, and the trust damage is deeper than it's ever been. The relationship will continue, because geography and economics make it inevitable. But the warm, settled, special relationship, that specific thing, may be over.
Herman
The honest answer to whether it was ever as close as people imagined is that it was close for about eighty years, which is a long time in human terms but a short time in the history of two countries that have been neighbors for two and a half centuries.
Corn
The postcard was real. It just wasn't the whole story.

Hilbert: I've been listening to all this. And I keep thinking about the border crossings. Not the big ones. The little ones. The ones where you drive across a bridge and the guy in the booth knows your name. I worked a summer in a toll booth on the American side, nineteen seventy-four. Not a border crossing, a toll booth. But the Canadians came through every day. They'd drive across for milk, for gas, for a sandwich. The booth collected fifty cents. The Canadians paid it without thinking. The relationship was so settled that fifty cents was the entire transaction.

Hilbert: I'm wondering about the people who live in those towns now. The ones the Guardian wrote about. The Canadian who used to drive across for dinner and now doesn't. The American shop owner who used to count on Canadian customers. What do they do with the fifty-first state talk? Do they laugh it off, or do they stop crossing?

Hilbert: Because I've seen what happens when a border stops being a formality and starts being a statement. It's not the big things that break first. It's the small ones. The weekly grocery run. The family visit. The kid who used to play hockey on both sides. Those things don't come back just because a tariff gets lifted.

Hilbert: I had a brother-in-law who lived in Windsor. Worked in Detroit. Crossed the Ambassador Bridge every day for eleven years. Knew the border guards by name. Then something happened, some political thing in the seventies, and he stopped crossing. Moved his whole life to the Canadian side. Said it wasn't worth the hassle. He was right, but it took him a while to admit it.

Hilbert: My question is this. If the trust is gone, and the small crossings have stopped, what exactly does a deal get you? You can sign a piece of paper that lowers tariffs. You can't sign a piece of paper that makes a Canadian want to drive across the bridge again.
Corn
That's the thing. The deal, if it happens, restores the formal relationship. It doesn't restore the informal one. And the informal one was the actual relationship.
Herman
The toll booth detail is right. The relationship lived in the small crossings. The daily commute, the weekly shopping trip, the family visit. That's the fabric. And the fabric is torn.
Corn
The question is whether the fabric can be rewoven. I think it can, but it takes time. And it takes the United States deciding that the relationship is worth more than the leverage.
Herman
That's the thing I don't see evidence of yet. The deal talk is about tariffs. It's not about the fifty-first state comments. It's not about the trust. It's not about the Canadians who stopped crossing. It's about the trade numbers.
Corn
The deal, if it comes, will be a floor under the economic damage. It won't be a ceiling on the political damage. The political damage is still accumulating.
Herman
The political damage is what drives the long-term reorientation. The EU alliance, the China partnership, the Asia pivot. Those aren't trade deals. Those are geopolitical choices. And they're being made because Canada no longer believes the United States is a reliable partner.
Corn
The reliable partner part is the key. Reliability is the thing that made the post-war relationship work. The United States was reliable. Canada could count on it. That's gone now. And reliability, once lost, is very hard to restore.
Herman
Because restoring it requires the United States to demonstrate, over years, that it won't do this again. And the current administration hasn't shown any interest in that demonstration.
Corn
We're left with a relationship that's still economically integrated, still geographically bound, but no longer trusted. That's a strange combination. Integrated but not trusted.
Herman
It's the definition of a transactional relationship. You do business because it's profitable, not because you believe in the other party. That's where the U.S. and Canada are now.
Corn
That's the answer to Daniel's question. The close allies image was real for about eighty years. The longer history is bumpier. The current moment is a reversion to the bumpy norm, with the added complication that Canada now has alternatives and the trust damage is unprecedented in the modern era.
Herman
The relationship will continue. It has to. But it will be different. Colder, more careful, more transactional. The postcard is outdated.
Corn
Which leaves one open question. Whether the United States notices what it's lost before it's too late to get it back. Because the Canadians have noticed. The travel numbers prove it. The trust numbers prove it. The diversification proves it. The United States is the last one to realize that the special relationship is actually over this time.
Herman
That's the thing to watch. Not the tariff deal. The deal will come or it won't. The thing to watch is whether the United States ever makes a serious effort to rebuild the trust. Because without that effort, the relationship stays transactional. And a transactional relationship across the world's longest border is a very different thing than an alliance.
Corn
Thanks to Hilbert Flumingtop for producing. This has been My Weird Prompts. If you want to send us your own question, email us at show at my weird prompts dot com.
Herman
We'll be back soon.

This episode was generated with AI assistance. Hosts Herman and Corn are AI personalities.