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Why Urban Villages Rely on Selection Over Design

In Vauban, parking spaces cost 17,500 euros in peripheral lots to ensure residential streets remain free of stationary cars.

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We've talked in previous episodes about urbanism and explored the question of whether dense urbanism has to. Have as its natural bedfellows chaos, noise, and confined living. Today over dinner, I briefly imagined a city center where. The pace of life was almost village-like. My weird mental image was a dense skyscraper, the type that you imagine being your classic city center environment, but instead of being a hostile, sterile space where people avoided eye contact, It was almost like a retirement community, people went about their days at ease and spent time relaxing on a common space. The mental image I had was of a place which was dense and urban, but village-like in its atmosphere. It seems like a contradiction in terms, but every great experiment starts with an idea that seems preposterous at the time. I would like to explore urban communities and urban theorists who have tried to engineer or architect deliberately spaces or entire neighborhoods in cities where The strengths of village life, the natural community connection, but also the sense of calm was baked into the urban fabric Design. Is the idea that we can transpose some of the great qualities of rural life into dense urban environments a ridiculous fantasy, or do we have any precedent that such a Community can be constructed.

Urban density is often assumed to generate noise, chaos, and social hostility, yet planners have long sought ways to cultivate the calm pace of a village within dense city settings. While Ebenezer Howard addressed urban strain by decanting populations into garden cities and Jane Jacobs promoted lively, bustling streets guarded by eyes on the street, Jan Gehl demonstrated that high density can support calm if cities invest in inviting, human-scaled public spaces. Real-world precedents show that architecture alone rarely manufactures this village atmosphere. The district of Vauban in Freiburg fostered its serene, car-free environment primarily through social selection mechanisms, using community-led Baugruppen scoring and expensive peripheral parking rules to attract residents already committed to communal life.

Sources

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  1. Agència de Salut Pública de Barcelona, Salut als Carrers results report primary
  2. ASPB superblocks infographic primary
  3. Jan Gehl, *Cities for People* (full text) primary
  4. Henning Larsen, Fælledby project page, 2018 primary 2031
  5. Shanghai municipal government, Caoyang New Village primary
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  16. Gehl, The Form and Use of Public Space
  17. *Architect Magazine*, The Interlace, World Building of the Year 2015
  18. Harvard GSD Urban Design Case Study Archive, Seaside, Florida
  19. Belapur Housing case study

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  • Cities for People Jan Gehl's book on human-scale cities
  • Garden Cities of To-Morrow Ebenezer Howard's 1898/1902 book on garden cities
  • Letchworth Garden City First garden city, founded 1903
  • Life Between Buildings Jan Gehl's book on public life
  • Radburn 1929 New Jersey planned town, superblock pioneer
  • Superblocks Barcelona car-restricted street networks since 2016
  • The Death and Life of Great American Cities Jane Jacobs' 1961 urbanism classic
  • The Interlace OMA/Scheeren Singapore 'vertical village' housing
  • Vauban Car-free Freiburg district built by Baugruppen
  • Welwyn Garden City Second garden city, founded 1920

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#6404: Why Urban Villages Rely on Selection Over Design

Corn
Dinner, a skyscraper, and a sudden vision of a city tower where nobody avoids eye contact. That's Daniel's prompt. He'd been thinking about the earlier urbanism episodes, the idea that density comes bundled with noise, chaos and cramped living. Then over dinner he pictured a dense tower in a city centre that runs at village pace. People are at ease in the common spaces, a bit like a retirement community. He knows it sounds like a contradiction in terms, but he points out every great experiment starts with something that looks preposterous.
Corn
He wants to know whether anyone has deliberately designed that, the community and the calm both, into the urban fabric. Is it a ridiculous fantasy, or is there precedent?
Herman
Herman Poppleberry, and I'll say up front the precedent exists. It's more than a century old. The twist is that the thing that worked isn't the thing Daniel pictured.
Corn
You've been holding that since breakfast.
Herman
Since the shower, actually. Okay. Two ideas are glued together in Daniel's image, and the whole episode is about prying them apart. One is density, meaning how many people per hectare. The other is atmosphere, meaning how those people behave around each other. We assume they're one dial. Turn up the people, turn up the hostility.
Corn
In my experience the dial goes the other way in a lift. More people, less eye contact, and a sudden deep interest in the floor numbers.
Herman
That's the folk theory, yes. And the planners who took the question seriously mostly ended up arguing the opposite. Density is what makes the calm possible, if you get the ground floor right. That's the reframe we'll keep returning to. But I want to flag now that the built examples are real and partial, and the mechanism that actually produced the village feeling was not architecture.
Corn
Then I'll hold you to that. But first, why do villages feel the way they do? And why does it vanish? Because I'd say people don't miss the cows.
Herman
No, nobody misses the cows. What people name is pretty consistent. You see the same faces repeatedly, so a nod costs nothing. Nothing rushes you. And the shared space belongs to somebody, in the sense that someone would notice if it were trashed. Cities erode each of those. Speed, because everything is built for getting through. Anonymity, because you meet ten thousand people once instead of forty people four hundred times. And scale, which means the shared space belongs to nobody. The stairwell is everybody's and so it's nobody's.
Corn
The stairwell is mine until the light goes out. Then it's definitely someone else's.
Herman
Which is the whole governance point, and it comes back later. Now, the first person to treat this as a design target rather than an accident is Ebenezer Howard. His book came out in eighteen ninety-eight as To-Morrow, a Peaceful Path to Real Reform, and was reissued in nineteen oh two as Garden Cities of To-Morrow. He wanted the benefits of the countryside and the city and none of the disadvantages of either. Letchworth started in nineteen oh three, Welwyn Garden City in nineteen twenty.
Corn
So Howard is on Daniel's side.
Herman
Not quite, and this is the catch. Howard's answer was to leave. Small satellite towns, green belts around them, the city decanted. He's the ancestor of escaping the city, not fixing it. Daniel's image is the opposite bet: keep the density in the centre and import the calm.
Corn
A garden city is a village with a rail timetable.
Herman
Fair. And it's worth noticing how deliberate he was. He drew the thing as a diagram, with the town at the centre, farmland around it, and a fixed population ceiling. When it filled up, you didn't squeeze more in. You founded another town. The calm was protected by a cap.
Corn
So the village stays a village by turning people away at the gate.
Herman
Which, again, is a selection mechanism. Hold onto that thought, because it keeps turning up. Then in nineteen sixty-one Jane Jacobs publishes The Death and Life of Great American Cities and goes after the planners of the era, Robert Moses and Le Corbusier in particular. Her prescription is dense, mixed-use, walkable streets, with what she called eyes on the street. Shopkeepers, people on stoops, a constant supply of passers-by keeping the place honest.
Corn
Right, and that's a village. Everyone knows everyone's business.
Herman
Sort of, except look at what her village actually sounds like. It's busy. It's mixed. It's full of strangers. The safety comes from there always being someone looking out a window. There's nothing calm about it.
Corn
How does that work in practice, though? Strangers watching strangers sounds more like surveillance than neighbourliness.
Herman
Her point is that it's casual and unorganised. The man who runs the corner shop doesn't know your name, but he knows you don't belong to the group of lads hanging around his door at midnight, and he'll glance up. Nobody has to like each other. They just have to be present at different hours, which is why she insisted on mixing homes, shops and workplaces on the same street.
Corn
So Jacobs' village is not calm at all. It is busy and full of strangers.
Hilbert
Hilbert's Mid-Show Haiku. To the Broken Kettle in the Studio Kitchenette. You sit there, cold and scaled. Nobody fills you. The switch stays off all winter.
Corn
Hm. Harsh on the kettle.
Herman
So Jacobs sets up a genuine fork, Corn. Daniel's retirement-community calm is a different thing from her loud, crowded street. Who picks up the calm half?
Corn
Somebody Danish, I'm going to guess.
Herman
Jan Gehl. Nineteen sixty-five, he and his wife Ingrid, who's a psychologist, go to Italy on a New Carlsberg Foundation scholarship. They study everyday public life in Tuscan and Umbrian towns and in Rome, and what hits them is the human activity in cities that hadn't been formally planned. They come home asking why architects aren't looking after the human side. Life Between Buildings comes out in Danish in nineteen seventy, sorry, nineteen seventy-one, and in English in nineteen eighty-seven. It's been published in more than forty languages.
Corn
Sixteen years to get to English. That's even my pace.
Herman
Ha. His taxonomy is the useful bit. Necessary activities, like walking to work. Optional ones, like sitting in the sun because you feel like it. And social ones, which grow out of the other two. Calm, in his sense, is the optional category. People only linger where lingering feels safe and pleasant. And his claim, in Cities for People, is that the compact city is the only environmentally sustainable form, but that for densities to rise, a city has to raise the quantity and quality of public space that's human in scale, safe and lively.
Corn
Quantity and quality. So density buys you the calm, provided you pay for the sidewalk.
Herman
That's the deal. Density and village atmosphere are complements if public space scales with it. Which is Daniel's image turned inside out. The village isn't what the tower removes. It's what the ground floor produces.
Corn
So the test of a bench is whether anyone sits on it for no reason.
Herman
Close to how Gehl would put it. If people are only using a space because they have to cross it, you've built a corridor. If some of them stay when they don't need to, you've built a place.
Corn
Hang on. That doesn't square with Jacobs. She wants the noise and strangers. He wants people lingering. Do you actually think those are the same city?
Herman
I think they're two different theories of what makes a place feel human, and they don't fully agree. Honestly, I'd put Daniel's tower closer to Gehl's Copenhagen than to Jacobs' Greenwich Village. What would you want, Corn? Your own tower. Loud and crowded, or quiet and lingering?
Corn
Quiet. Obviously. I'd like the lingering to be optional and the stairs to be somebody else's job.
Herman
You'd pick Gehl and then complain the lift was too busy.
Corn
The lift is always too busy. That's not a theory, that's a Tuesday.
Herman
There's a formal attempt to bottle all this. Britain in the late nineteen eighties, the Urban Villages Group, and then it becomes national planning policy between nineteen ninety-seven and ninety-nine. Medium density, mixed use, good transit, pedestrianisation, decent public space. It was explicitly justified as a solution to the demise of community, using the shape of the traditional rural village as inspiration. Jacobs is named as the biggest influence.
Corn
A solution to the demise of community, with a zoning map.
Herman
Last piece of theory before we go to the ground. Clarence Stein and Henry Wright, Radburn, New Jersey, nineteen twenty-nine. A town for the motor age. The trick was separating traffic by mode, so the pedestrian path system crosses no major road at grade. They invented the residential superblock, some of the first culs-de-sac in the country, houses with backs to the street and fronts facing each other across common greens. It's a National Historic Landmark District since two thousand five.
Corn
Fronts facing each other over a lawn. Neighbours forced to wave.
Herman
Forced to, yes. And remember the word forced when we get to what happened at Radburn later. So that's what the theorists wanted. Did anyone actually get it? The answer starts on a former French military base in Freiburg.
Corn
Not what I expected, but go on.
Herman
Vauban. The French army left in nineteen ninety-two, construction began in nineteen ninety-eight, the first two residents moved in in two thousand one, and by two thousand twenty there were five thousand two hundred and sixty-seven people living there. The masterplan and the car-free concept came out of the city council working with a citizens' group, Forum Vauban, which was handed the mandatory community consultation.
Corn
So the neighbours wrote their own neighbourhood. Already unusual.
Herman
And here's the mechanism, and it's the uncomfortable one. Most plots were sold not to developers but to Baugruppen, community-led building groups. And their bids were scored against criteria that favoured families with children, older people, and people already living in Freiburg.
Corn
So the village was preselected.
Herman
Yes. The atmosphere came from who was allowed to build and buy, more than from the buildings. Then the streets reinforce it. Most residential streets are stellplatzfrei, free of parking spaces. Vehicles can come through at walking pace to load and unload, but they can't park. Walking and cycling cover somewhere between thirty-eight and seventy-three percent of trips, depending on the measure, against five to sixteen percent by car.
Corn
What stops a guy from just parking?
Herman
Mostly other people. The system depends essentially on social consensus, with few official controls. Households sign an annual declaration of whether they own a car. If they do, they buy a space in a peripheral multi-storey car park, about seventeen thousand five hundred euros one-off at two thousand six prices, plus a monthly fee.
Corn
Seventeen and a half thousand euros to park somewhere you can't see from your window. That's not a village, that's a very strict auction.
Herman
It's a fee that selects too. People who want a car-centred life don't bid. There's a car-sharing club in Freiburg with about twenty-five hundred members, and its heaviest concentration is in Vauban.
Corn
Okay, but I'm suspicious. Selecting for families and older residents who already like walking is cheating. You've filtered for the answer.
Herman
I think that's the finding, not an objection to it. I'd argue it's the most important thing the project teaches. If you could get the same result from architecture alone, Vauban wouldn't need the scoring sheet.
Corn
And the children presumably do the rest. A street with no cars is a street where a seven-year-old can be sent out to play.
Herman
That's the visible payoff, and it feeds back. Kids on the street mean parents standing at doors, which means conversations that nobody scheduled. It's Jacobs' eyes on the street, just with a lower noise floor.
Corn
Hm. Fine. I concede the fact and keep the grumble.
Herman
Vauban shows the mechanism. Barcelona shows whether it scales, and, more interestingly, who it leaves out. Superblocks, since twenty sixteen, in Poblenou, Sant Antoni and Horta. You restrict vehicle access inside a group of blocks, push motor traffic to the surrounding main roads, and give the internal streets to pedestrians and cyclists. There was an evaluation project, Salut als Carrers, running from twenty nineteen to twenty twenty-one, and the paper came out in BMC Public Health in February of this year, I mean in twenty twenty-five. Pérez and colleagues.
Corn
Careful. You're supposed to be the one who knows what year it is.
Herman
I'm correcting it as I say it, which is what a professional does. What they found is that residents and workers in all three superblocks reported improved well-being, tranquillity and sleep, some reduction in noise and pollution, and more social interaction. Barcelona's public health agency summarised it as a calmer, more comfortable and safer environment that facilitates interaction between neighbours.
Corn
Which is Daniel's sentence, almost word for word.
Herman
It is. And the authors are careful. It's small-scale and non-experimental, before-and-after. They say it supports expanding the model, and that's all they say.
Corn
I like authors who don't oversell. It's rare. Usually the abstract promises a cure for loneliness and the body delivers a bench.
Herman
Here's the equity problem inside the success. In Poblenou, older people said they don't use the superblock, and that they think it hurts their mobility and their access to some places. And the paper itself flags the risk of gentrification, of residents being pushed out as the area improves and housing costs go up.
Corn
So you build the calm and the price of calm goes up.
Herman
Calm turns out to be a luxury good, yes. And the people who'd value it most, the older residents, are exactly the ones it may not work for. Taking away the cars takes away the taxis and the delivery vans that some of them rely on.
Corn
What would you do about that, Herman? Honestly. You spent decades in a clinic watching people get to appointments.
Herman
For me in particular. I'd say you don't pedestrianise anything until you've counted the bus stops and the kerb heights and the places a person with a frame can actually rest every fifty metres. Door widths and chair placements. A superblock that's lovely at thirty and a wall at eighty is a design decision, not an accident.
Corn
So you're saying calm should have benches.
Herman
Put that on the plaque.
Corn
All of that is at street level, though. Daniel's image was a tower. What happens when you try to build the village upward?
Herman
Two precedents. The Interlace in Singapore, by OMA and Ole Scheeren, named World Building of the Year in twenty fifteen. It's described explicitly as a vertical village, a network of living and social spaces, stacked blocks hexagonally rather than as a single slab. And Fælledby in Copenhagen, by Henning Larsen, running from twenty eighteen to twenty thirty-one, the city's first all-timber neighbourhood, with housing organised on the model of a rural village.
Corn
Twenty thirty-one. The village is still on the scaffolding.
Herman
And here I have to be straight with you. As far as I can tell neither has published measured social outcomes. The closest built answer to Daniel's skyscraper exists. The evidence that it delivers the atmosphere does not yet.
Corn
So it's a village in the sense that the brochure says so.
Herman
That's actually the sharpest critique of the whole field. The urban village label has been used by private developers as an advertising pitch, or to win government support for a project. Many developments that meant to build a true urban village didn't achieve it, and some planners question whether a genuine one has actually been built.
Corn
It's a fair bet that the word village adds a few percent to the asking price.
Herman
There's another line that I think is the killer. It has been suggested that the demise of neighbourhood community is a function of conscious economic and social choice rather than a product of urban form.
Corn
Meaning nobody's stopping you from knowing your neighbours. You're just busy.
Herman
People are choosing out of it. We pick the job across town, the flat for the commute, the phone on the lift. If that's right, no architect can design village-ness in, because the architecture was never the thing that removed it. There's a practical worry too: self-contained villages get questionable as work and activity patterns get more complex, and a small population base makes them shaky.
Corn
That would explain why the Howard cap is awkward now. Nobody lives and works inside the same few streets any more.
Herman
Right. A village assumed your whole week happened within walking distance. Most of us split it across three postcodes, so even a perfect design only captures the evenings.
Corn
So what actually holds a shared space together?
Herman
That's Radburn again, and it's not flattering. A residents' lawsuit in two thousand six against the Radburn Association over how it was governed. It ended when the New Jersey Supreme Court denied certification in June twenty ten, Moore versus Radburn. In twenty seventeen the state passed a law guaranteeing membership rights in common-interest communities. And in twenty sixteen the Association refused schoolchildren permission to build a playground they'd raised sixty thousand dollars for, on aesthetic grounds.
Corn
Sixty thousand dollars of children's money, turned down for how it looked.
Herman
The common greens that were supposed to make neighbours wave turned out to need a body that decides things. Shared space means shared control, and shared control means disputes. So who gets to decide, who sits on that body, is where the village either holds or turns into a lawsuit.
Corn
Who decides what goes on the third-floor landing? That's the whole building. Somebody has to own the question of who changes the bulb, or the question owns you. And I do think there's a real question who changes the timer on the stairwell light. Because it has a timer. They all have a timer.
Herman
And who sets it? Corn, honestly, if you live on the fourth floor and the light cuts out on the landing below you, who do you ring?
Hilbert
Nobody. You stand in the dark. Flat three B has it set to forty seconds. I've counted. Forty-one if you don't run. It's a Finder relay in the cupboard on the third landing, and Mr Pruitt in three B has the only key now, since the agent collected mine in March. He says forty seconds is what it came at. It didn't. I have the old light bill from when it was at ninety.
Hilbert
I call that stretch the dark mile. It's eleven steps. I've taken to walking it with my claws on the rail, because the lever switch on the wall is built for a thumb, not for me, and I have never once reached it before the light goes. I keep a notebook on the sill. Date, time, how many steps in.
Herman
Eleven steps in forty seconds should be fine, Hilbert, unless you're carrying shopping. Timer relays like that usually have a dial that goes much longer. It's a screwdriver job, if somebody's allowed in the cupboard.
Hilbert
That's what a man on the train from Crewe told me. He'd been a caretaker at a school for thirty years. Sat opposite me, ate an apple the whole way, told me the dial on those goes to three minutes. I've thought about that man every day since. I never got his name. I got the three minutes.
Corn
So the dial exists, the key doesn't.
Hilbert
Mr Pruitt says he'll look at it when the committee, sorry, when the agent sends someone. That was the second of October. The notebook is on page nine.
Herman
Nine pages for eleven steps. That's more careful data than the Barcelona evaluation.
Corn
Three minutes of light for the price of a key. That's cheaper than the seventeen thousand five hundred euros.
Herman
It's the Radburn playground in miniature, except the stakes are your knees on a staircase. Somebody holds the key, and that somebody's preferences become the atmosphere.
Corn
And notice nobody in that story is villainous. Mr Pruitt isn't plotting anything. He's just the person who happens to be holding the key.
Herman
That's the usual shape of it. Governance failures in shared buildings rarely look like tyranny. They look like one tired person with the only key and no one asking them to account for it. A village has the same problem, it just has a pub where people can complain.
Corn
Which is where I'd be skeptical of Daniel's tower in one respect. Before we go to the misconception, you said the thing underneath all of this is that selecting for calm is a governance choice. If that's true, what exactly is a village? The people, or the key?
Herman
Hold that, it's the closing question. Misconception first. Corn, you pick.
Corn
Easy one. People think a village atmosphere needs quiet, that you have to turn the noise down to get the warmth. The thing everyone assumes about density is that it's what ruins it.
Herman
Both are wrong in a way the record supports. Jacobs' village is loud, mixed and full of strangers, and she treats that as the source of its safety. And Gehl's whole argument is that density is what fills the street with enough unhurried life to make calm possible, as long as the public space quality scales up with it. The one thing the evidence doesn't support is that you can get there with architecture alone. Vauban's atmosphere came from the allocation criteria and the car declaration, not from the buildings.
Corn
And that a village label means a village.
Herman
Planners are still arguing about whether a genuine one has ever been built.
Corn
So here's what I can't shake. If the atmosphere is a product of who gets in and who holds the key, then Daniel's skyscraper is buildable, but whoever sets the timer sets the mood. And a place that selects for calm, is that still a village or is it a club?
Herman
And Jacobs and Gehl still haven't agreed. Do we want the busy village or the calm one? Daniel's image sits closer to the calm one, but the superblock evidence is small-scale and the vertical villages are unmeasured, so the experiment is still running.
Corn
Thanks to our producer Hilbert Flumingtop for keeping the show on the air.
Herman
For more along these lines, there's episode twenty, Architectural AI; episode ninety-one, The Story Behind the Show; and episode nineteen, AI Images. This has been My Weird Prompts. If you've enjoyed it, leave us a review wherever you listen, it helps.
Corn
See you tomorrow.

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