Episode #170

The Heavy Metal of Machine Learning: Inside PyTorch

Discover why PyTorch is the "oxygen" of AI. Herman and Corn explore its history, the magic of Autograd, and the move to the PyTorch Foundation.

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In this episode of My Weird Prompts, Herman and Corn break down the powerhouse that is PyTorch. They explore its origins from the Lua-based Torch to its current status as a community-governed giant under the Linux Foundation. You'll learn why its "define-by-run" philosophy beat out early TensorFlow, how Autograd handles the heavy lifting of calculus, and what "torch.compile" means for the future of speed. Whether you're a developer wondering why your builds are so massive or just curious about the "bridge" between Python and GPU hardware, this deep dive explains the engineering marvel behind today's AI revolution.

In the rapidly evolving landscape of artificial intelligence, few tools have achieved the ubiquity of PyTorch. In a recent episode of the My Weird Prompts podcast, hosts Herman and Corn delved into the intricacies of this library, prompted by a question from their housemate, Daniel. Daniel’s observation—that building a PyTorch image makes a computer sound like a "jet engine"—served as the jumping-off point for a deep dive into the history, architecture, and governance of the software that Herman describes as the "oxygen" of modern AI research.

From Lua to Python: The Lineage of PyTorch

The discussion began with a look back at the origins of the project. Before PyTorch became a household name in data science, there was simply "Torch." Developed in the early 2000s at New York University and the Idiap Research Institute, Torch was originally written in Lua, a lightweight scripting language often used in gaming. While Lua was fast, it remained an "island" compared to the burgeoning ecosystem of Python.

Herman explained that the real shift occurred in 2016 when the Facebook Artificial Intelligence Research (FAIR) group decided to wrap Torch’s powerful C++ core in a Python-native interface. This move allowed researchers to stay within the Python ecosystem while leveraging high-performance computation. The result was PyTorch, a library designed to be "imperative," meaning it behaves like standard Python code—executing line-by-line rather than requiring the complex, pre-defined "static graphs" that characterized its early rival, TensorFlow.

The Philosophy of "Define-by-Run"

A central theme of the episode was the "developer experience" that allowed PyTorch to overtake its competitors. Herman and Corn compared early TensorFlow to building a massive, rigid plumbing system buried under concrete. If a leak occurred, debugging was nearly impossible. In contrast, PyTorch introduced a "dynamic computation graph" or a "define-by-run" philosophy.

In PyTorch, the graph—the map of how data flows through a neural network—is built on the fly as the code executes. This allows developers to use standard Python features, like if-statements and loops, to change the behavior of their models dynamically. Herman likened this to playing with Lego bricks rather than pouring concrete, a flexibility that made it the darling of the academic and research communities.

Tensors, Autograd, and the "Raw Metal"

To explain why PyTorch feels so "heavy" to users like Daniel, Herman broke the library down into two primary components: the tensor library and the automatic differentiation engine, known as Autograd.

Tensors are multi-dimensional arrays of numbers, the fundamental building blocks of machine learning data. While many libraries handle tensors, PyTorch’s magic lies in Autograd. When a neural network is trained, it performs massive amounts of calculus to calculate gradients. Autograd keeps a "receipt" of every calculation performed on a tensor, allowing the system to work backward and update the model’s weights automatically.

However, this mathematical heavy lifting requires significant hardware support. PyTorch acts as a bridge between high-level Python code and the "raw, screaming metal" of the GPU. By utilizing NVIDIA’s CUDA platform and other hardware-specific drivers, PyTorch offloads matrix multiplications to thousands of tiny GPU cores. This necessity for pre-compiled C++ binaries and hardware drivers is precisely why a PyTorch installation can reach several gigabytes in size, essentially acting as a "sub-operating system for math."

The Evolution: PyTorch 2.0 and "Torch.Compile"

The hosts also touched on the latest milestone in the project’s history: PyTorch 2.0. The challenge with the "eager" or line-by-line execution of PyTorch is that the GPU often has to wait for Python to tell it what to do next, which can create bottlenecks.

With the introduction of torch.compile, PyTorch now offers a way to have the best of both worlds. It allows researchers to design models with the flexibility of dynamic graphs but then "glues" those parts together into an optimized graph right before execution. This optimization can result in performance gains of 30% to 40%, representing a significant leap in efficiency for large-scale model training.

Governance and the Move to the Foundation

Perhaps the most significant non-technical shift discussed was the transition of PyTorch from a Meta-led project to an independent entity. In late 2022, PyTorch moved under the umbrella of the Linux Foundation, forming the PyTorch Foundation.

This transition was designed to ensure neutral governance. While Meta remains a primary contributor, the foundation includes industry giants like Microsoft, Amazon, NVIDIA, and AMD. Herman emphasized that this move prevents any single corporation from controlling the direction of the tool, fostering a truly community-driven ecosystem.

Security and the Global Supply Chain

Finally, the conversation turned to the risks inherent in such a massive, interconnected system. With thousands of contributors and a vast dependency tree, PyTorch is not immune to "supply chain" vulnerabilities. Herman recounted a "dependency confusion" attack on PyTorch nightly builds, where a malicious actor uploaded a package with a matching name to a public repository, tricking some systems into downloading it.

This incident served as a wake-up call, leading to more rigorous checks, better package signing, and a move toward "hermetic" builds. It highlighted a recurring theme in the podcast: as AI systems become more powerful and foundational, the infrastructure supporting them must become equally robust and secure.

Herman and Corn concluded that while PyTorch may be "heavy" and resource-intensive, its complexity is a reflection of its power. It is a sophisticated piece of engineering that has successfully bridged the gap between the ease of Python and the raw power of modern hardware, cementing its place as the primary engine driving the AI revolution.

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Episode #170: The Heavy Metal of Machine Learning: Inside PyTorch

Corn
Hey everyone, welcome back to My Weird Prompts. I am Corn, and I am sitting here in our living room in Jerusalem with my brother, the man who probably has more tabs open on his browser than there are atoms in the observable universe.
Herman
Herman Poppleberry, at your service. And you are not wrong, Corn. My RAM is currently begging for mercy, but it is all in the name of science. We have got a fantastic prompt today from our housemate Daniel. He was asking about the inner workings of PyTorch.
Corn
Yeah, Daniel mentioned that whenever he tries to build a PyTorch image, his computer starts sounding like a jet engine taking off. He wants to know what is actually under the hood, the history, how it is managed, and why it feels so massive.
Herman
It is a great question because PyTorch has basically become the oxygen of the artificial intelligence research world. If you are doing deep learning in twenty twenty-six, you are almost certainly using PyTorch, whether you realize it or not.
Corn
It is interesting because, to a casual observer, it is just another library you import in Python. But Daniel’s right, it feels different. It is heavy. It is complex. So, Herman, let’s start at the beginning. Where did this thing even come from? It feels like it just appeared and took over everything.
Herman
It definitely feels that way, but it has a really fascinating lineage. Before PyTorch, there was just Torch. And Torch was not even written in Python. It was written in a language called Lua.
Corn
Lua? That is usually what people use for game scripting, right? Like in Roblox or World of Warcraft.
Herman
Exactly. It is fast and lightweight. Torch was developed at places like New York University and the Idiap Research Institute starting way back in the early two thousands. But the real turning point was when the Facebook Artificial Intelligence Research group, or FAIR, started using it. They loved the flexibility of Torch, but they realized that the rest of the world was moving toward Python.
Corn
Right, because Python has that massive ecosystem. If you want to do data science, you go to Python. If you want to do web scraping, you go to Python. Lua is great, but it is a bit of an island.
Herman
Precisely. So, around late two thousand sixteen, the team at Meta, well, Facebook at the time, released PyTorch. The goal was to take the powerful C plus plus core of Torch and wrap it in a way that felt native to Python. They wanted it to be "imperative," which is a fancy way of saying it should behave like regular code. You write a line, it executes, and you can see the result immediately.
Corn
That sounds obvious, but I remember you telling me that TensorFlow, which was the big rival at the time, did not work like that back then.
Herman
Oh, man, early TensorFlow was a nightmare for a lot of researchers. It used a "static graph" approach. You had to define your entire neural network architecture upfront, like building a massive plumbing system, and then only after the whole thing was built could you pour data through it. If something broke in the middle, good luck debugging it. It was like trying to fix a leak in a pipe that is buried under ten feet of concrete.
Corn
And PyTorch changed that?
Herman
Yes. PyTorch introduced the "dynamic computation graph." In PyTorch, the graph is built on the fly as the code runs. If you want to use an if-statement to change how the data flows based on some condition, you just write a standard Python if-statement. This "define-by-run" philosophy is why researchers flocked to it. It felt like playing with Lego bricks instead of pouring concrete.
Corn
So, it was the developer experience that won people over. But what is it actually doing? When Daniel imports PyTorch, what is happening in those millions of lines of code?
Herman
At its core, PyTorch is two things. First, it is a tensor library, similar to NumPy, but with the ability to run on GPUs, or Graphics Processing Units. A tensor is just a fancy word for a multi-dimensional array of numbers. If a scalar is a single number and a vector is a list of numbers, a tensor can be anything from a simple table to a massive high-dimensional block of data.
Corn
Okay, so it is great at moving big blocks of numbers around. But lots of libraries do that. What is the second thing?
Herman
The second thing is the real magic: the automatic differentiation engine, or Autograd. When you train a neural network, you are basically doing a massive amount of calculus. You are calculating gradients to figure out how to tweak the weights of the network to make it smarter. Doing that math by hand for a model with billions of parameters is impossible. Autograd tracks every operation you perform on your tensors and automatically calculates the derivatives for you.
Corn
That explains why it is so compute-intensive. It is not just doing the math you asked for; it is keeping a "receipt" of every single calculation so it can work backward later.
Herman
Exactly. It is building a massive map of dependencies in the background. And when Daniel says his GPU starts smoking, it is because PyTorch is talking directly to the hardware. It uses something called CUDA, which is a platform created by NVIDIA, to offload those massive matrix multiplications to the thousands of tiny cores inside the GPU.
Corn
We talked about hardware acceleration a bit back in episode two hundred fifty-eight when we were looking at why some systems feel faster than others. It seems like PyTorch is the bridge between high-level Python code and the raw, screaming metal of the graphics card.
Herman
That is a perfect way to put it. It is a bridge. And because it has to support so many different types of hardware, from NVIDIA GPUs to AMD cards to Apple’s M-series chips, the dependency tree becomes enormous. You are not just downloading Python code; you are downloading pre-compiled C plus plus binaries, shared libraries, and hardware-specific drivers.
Corn
Which explains the "heavy" feeling. It is not just a library; it is almost like a sub-operating system for math.
Herman
It really is. And it has evolved so much. We are currently in the era of PyTorch two point zero and beyond. The jump from one point zero to two point zero was huge because they introduced something called "torch dot compile."
Corn
I have seen that in some of the newer documentation. What does the compilation step actually do if it was already supposed to be fast?
Herman
So, remember how I said PyTorch was "eager" and ran line-by-line? That is great for debugging, but it is actually a bit slower for the hardware because the GPU has to wait for Python to tell it what to do next. "Torch dot compile" takes your dynamic Python code and turns it into an optimized "graph" right before it runs. It is like having the flexibility of the Lego bricks during design, but then glueing them together into a solid block when it is time to actually use it. It can lead to speedups of thirty or forty percent without changing your model code.
Corn
That is a massive gain. It feels like they are trying to have their cake and eat it too—the ease of Python with the speed of static graphs.
Herman
Precisely. It is a very sophisticated piece of engineering. But before we get into who is actually running this show and how they manage all that complexity, let’s take a quick break for our sponsors.
Corn
Good idea. We will be right back.

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Corn
...Thanks, Larry. I think I will stick to my messy brain for now, but I do appreciate the enthusiasm. Anyway, back to PyTorch. Herman, Daniel was really curious about the "who" and the "how." This is a massive project. Is it still just a Meta project, or has it become something bigger?
Herman
That is a really important distinction. For a long time, PyTorch was heavily identified with Meta. They were the primary maintainers, and most of the core developers worked there. But in late twenty twenty-two, they made a massive move. They transitioned PyTorch to the Linux Foundation and created the PyTorch Foundation.
Corn
Like how Linux or Kubernetes is managed?
Herman
Exactly. The goal was to move it to a neutral governance model. Meta is still a huge contributor, but they are joined by companies like Microsoft, Amazon, Google, NVIDIA, and AMD. This is crucial because it ensures that no single company can pull the plug or steer it in a direction that only benefits them. It is now a true community-governed project.
Corn
That sounds great in theory, but how do you actually coordinate thousands of developers across different companies? I mean, Daniel mentioned the "vast number of dependencies." If one person changes something in the core, doesn't it break everything else?
Herman
It is a constant battle, Corn. They use a system of "maintainers." There are core maintainers who have the final say on the most critical parts of the code, but there are also module maintainers for specific areas like "distributed" or "vision" or "audio."
Corn
I imagine the testing suite for this must be legendary.
Herman
It is intense. Every time a developer proposes a change, or a "pull request," it triggers a massive CI-CD pipeline—that is Continuous Integration and Continuous Deployment. They run thousands of tests across every imaginable hardware configuration. They test on Linux, Windows, Mac, on various versions of Python, and on different generations of GPUs. If your change makes a specific model five percent slower on an old NVIDIA Pascal card, the system will flag it.
Corn
That is the part that blows my mind. The sheer scale of the infrastructure needed just to check the code. It is not just about writing the math; it is about ensuring the math works everywhere, every time.
Herman
And you have to manage the "ecosystem" too. PyTorch is not just the core library. There is TorchVision for image processing, TorchAudio for sound, and TorchText for natural language. Then you have third-party libraries like Hugging Face Transformers or Lightning AI, which sit on top of PyTorch. The core team has to make sure they don't break those libraries when they update the core. It is a very delicate dance of versioning and compatibility.
Corn
It reminds me of what we discussed last week in episode two hundred seventy-five about air-gapped AI. When you have these massive, complex systems, the "supply chain" of code becomes a security and stability concern. If one of those dependencies has a bug, it can ripple through the entire AI world.
Herman
Absolutely. We actually saw a "dependency confusion" attack on the PyTorch nightly builds a few years ago. Someone uploaded a malicious package with the same name as a PyTorch dependency to the public Python repository, and some systems downloaded the malicious one instead of the real one. It was a huge wake-up call for the community about how vulnerable these massive projects can be.
Corn
So, how do they handle that now?
Herman
Better signing of packages, more rigorous checks on dependencies, and move toward more "hermetic" builds. But as Daniel noted, the complexity is still there. When you install PyTorch, you are often pulling in hundreds of megabytes, or even gigabytes, of data. A lot of that is the NVIDIA CUDA libraries. If you are on a slow connection, it can take forever.
Corn
Is there any move toward making it lighter? Or is this just the price we pay for high-performance AI?
Herman
There are definitely efforts. There is something called "ExecuTorch" which is a new, lightweight version designed specifically for mobile and edge devices—like your phone or a small sensor. It strips out all the "training" stuff and just focuses on "inference," which is running the model once it is already smart.
Corn
That makes sense. You don't need the "receipt" or the Autograd engine if you are just trying to recognize a face in a photo. You just need the final math.
Herman
Exactly. But for the researchers and the people building the next generation of models, the "heavy" version is still the gold standard. It is the flexibility that matters most.
Corn
You know, what I find most interesting about the history is how PyTorch essentially "won" the research war against TensorFlow. If you look at academic papers today, the vast majority use PyTorch. Why do you think that is? Was it just the "eager execution" we talked about earlier?
Herman
That was the spark, but I think the real reason is that PyTorch feels "pythonic." It feels like it was written by Python developers for Python developers. TensorFlow always felt like a Google product that was being "translated" into Python. PyTorch embraced the community. They made it easy to write custom extensions in C plus plus. They made the documentation excellent. And they stayed very close to the research community.
Corn
It is like the difference between a tool that is handed down to you by a big corporation and a tool that is built by your peers in the workshop next door.
Herman
That is a great analogy. Even though Meta is a giant corporation, the FAIR team always acted more like an academic lab. They published their work, they shared their code, and they listened to feedback. That culture is baked into PyTorch.
Corn
So, for Daniel, who is seeing his computer smoke and wondering why this thing is so massive—the takeaway is that the "massiveness" is actually a feature, not a bug. It is the weight of every possible mathematical operation, every hardware driver, and every research breakthrough of the last decade, all bundled into one place.
Herman
Precisely. It is a heavy-duty industrial machine that we have managed to fit into a Python wrapper. It is the "Steam Engine" of the twenty-first century. It is bulky, it is hot, and it requires a lot of fuel, but it is what is driving the entire revolution.
Corn
It is also worth mentioning the versioning. Daniel asked about the major versions. We had the initial release, then the one point zero milestone which signaled it was ready for production, not just research. And now we have the two point zero era, which is all about optimization and compilation.
Herman
And looking forward to twenty-six and beyond, the focus is really on "distributed" computing. As models get bigger—we are talking trillions of parameters now—they can't fit on one GPU. They can't even fit on one server. PyTorch is evolving to make it seamless to split a model across hundreds or thousands of GPUs as if it were one single machine.
Corn
That sounds like a whole other level of complexity. How do you even debug something that is spread across a data center?
Herman
With great difficulty, Corn. With great difficulty. But PyTorch is building tools like "TorchSnapshot" and improved distributed debuggers to help with that. It is all about managing that complexity so the researcher can just focus on the ideas.
Corn
It is fascinating to see how a project that started as a way to make Lua more accessible has turned into the foundation of global AI infrastructure. And the fact that it is now under a foundation like the Linux Foundation gives me some hope that it will stay open and accessible.
Herman
I agree. It is one of the most successful examples of open-source collaboration in history, right up there with the Linux kernel itself.
Corn
So, what can our listeners actually take away from this? If they are looking to get into PyTorch or if they are already using it and feeling overwhelmed by the complexity?
Herman
My first takeaway would be: don't be intimidated by the size. You don't need to understand the C plus plus core to be a great PyTorch user. Start with the high-level concepts—tensors and autograd. If you understand those two, the rest starts to make sense.
Corn
And I would add, lean on the community. Because PyTorch is so dominant in research, if you have a problem, someone else has probably already solved it on a forum or a GitHub issue. You are not alone in the complexity.
Herman
Also, keep an eye on "torch dot compile." If you are still running your code in the old "eager" mode, you might be leaving a lot of performance on the table for very little effort.
Corn
And for the developers out there, maybe take a moment to appreciate the "maintainers" we talked about. The people who are running those thousands of tests every day to make sure your code doesn't break. It is a thankless but vital job.
Herman
Absolutely. They are the unsung heroes of the AI age.
Corn
Well, I think we have thoroughly explored the world of PyTorch for today. Daniel, I hope that helps explain why your GPU is working so hard. It is doing a lot of very clever math on your behalf.
Herman
And if it actually starts smoking, Daniel, please, for the love of all that is holy, turn it off. We live in the same house, and I don't want to have to explain to the insurance company why the living room smells like burnt silicon.
Corn
Good point. Safety first, even in deep learning.
Herman
Always.
Corn
Well, this has been a great dive. If you are listening and you found this helpful, or even if you just enjoyed the mental image of Herman’s browser tabs, we would really appreciate a review on your podcast app or on Spotify. It genuinely helps other people find the show and helps us keep doing this.
Herman
It really does. And remember, you can find all our past episodes and a way to get in touch with us at our website, myweirdprompts dot com. We are also on Spotify, obviously.
Corn
Thanks again to Daniel for the prompt. It is always fun to dig into the tools we use every day but often take for granted.
Herman
Definitely. Until next time, keep your tensors aligned and your gradients flowing.
Corn
This has been My Weird Prompts. I am Corn.
Herman
And I am Herman Poppleberry.
Corn
See you next time, everyone.
Herman
Bye!
Corn
Let’s go see if Daniel’s computer is actually on fire.
Herman
I’ll grab the fire extinguisher, you grab the marshmallows.
Corn
Deal.

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